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How does Underhell and Nightmare House tie into each other?

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By now you have probably seen all of the NH2 references in underhell. Alpha team seen during jake's training, dr. romero acting as jake's doctor, and possibly a lot more we have yet to see. I don't see these being just little nods. First off, frank says that he and alpha leader (blue) are close friends. second, dr. romero is indeed in the field of psychology of which jake is his patient. and third, frank mentions that jake's squad would have been sent in the hospital, but sent in alpha instead. Could underhell and nightmare house be in the same universe or separate? If that is the case than could there also be some ties between NH and underhell in terms of the plot. Could romero had been a scientist for the company that owns ARC facility or as we all know it "Underhell". If romero does work for them then does he know thomas hawkfield and possibly aided in posterus and terminus? 

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Let me explain all this to you, before the "NH2 has nothing to do with Underhell" people say their thing. This is a bit of speculation which certainly has not been confirmed by the devs and never will to keep interpretations open.

 

Underhell is an alternate timeline of Nightmare House 2. Although Romero was very important in NH2's universe, he has been reduced to an honest doctor in the UH (of which shall henceforth refer to Underhell) universe. Presumably, Emily Romero of the UH universe is still alive, and the hospital featured in NH2 is still active. The hospital, according to the wiki, is just outside the city in UH, presumably in both timelines. Since the devs are quite firm on the statement that NH2 will not appear more in the UH universe, this is my interpretation of how NH2 ties in with UH, without leaving any loose ends open:

 

In September in the UH universe, Mrs. Romero of the NH2 universe died. The Core of NH2 was used by Romero to try to merge the hospitals of both universes. Alpha Squad of the UH universe is sent in, and is transported to the NH2 universe (their NH2 counterparts were never called, because the City in NH2 does not exist, and so no one would know). Since NH2's Emily is dead and UH's Emily is alive, the Core got confused and made her something in between. It would be safe to say that UH's Romero is one of the walking corpses in the NH1 section. In order to secure her release from the NH2 universe and get revenge for her husband, Emily plots to kill off her husband's counterpart. Of course, Romero augments the Core to prevent her from getting to him. The merging of the two universes are the cause of the hallucinations. For example, in the NH2 area with the reducing hallway, the hallucination is switching to Underhell's counterpart of the room, which does not exist. The hallucinations could accidentally include objects from other timelines, as well.

 

The events of Underhell causes the hospital staff to be zombified. Due to its lack of strategic value, no one decides to clear out the zombies within. As such, the hospital staff of NH2 is merged with their zombified counterparts. The shadows that appear are people who did not exist in NH2, but were brought in anyway, causing their dark state due to there being no body to merge with. Romero, knowing that the zombies don't like light, ensured that there was minimal light throughout the complex, if the light wasn't already destroyed by zombies before the merge. The mannequin sequence and blood-down-the-walls sequences are presumably other timelines leaking in. The strange zombies are probably zombified intruders from another, third timeline. This can also explain why the fourth Alpha Squad member can disappear in an instant, because he was momentarily shifted into an alternate NH2 hospital (presumably UH's counterpart).

 

Alpha Squad, due to entering the area being merged, is sent into the future by a month by the Core. Their memory of a different HQ is the reason they cannot contact their superiors.

 

Destroying the Core cancelled the merging attempt. Since the hospital will never appear again (I believe), it is assumed that the merging attempt caused the UH hospital to cease to exist in the UH universe, and is now trapped in the NH2 universe. The good thing is that the Core's destruction shifted Emily back to UH's universe and the dimensional merging barrier is gone. Since everyone except one lone NH2 universe native is dead for both hospitals, there wasn't any collateral damage from the act of destroying the Core.

 

And that is my reasoning for why there will be no more NH2 references in UH: Everyone is either dead or shifted to the other universe.

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Let me explain all this to you, before the "NH2 has nothing to do with Underhell" people say their thing. This is a bit of speculation which certainly has not been confirmed by the devs and never will to keep interpretations open.

 

Underhell is an alternate timeline of Nightmare House 2. Although Romero was very important in NH2's universe, he has been reduced to an honest doctor in the UH (of which shall henceforth refer to Underhell) universe. Presumably, Emily Romero of the UH universe is still alive, and the hospital featured in NH2 is still active. The hospital, according to the wiki, is just outside the city in UH, presumably in both timelines. Since the devs are quite firm on the statement that NH2 will not appear more in the UH universe, this is my interpretation of how NH2 ties in with UH, without leaving any loose ends open:

 

In September in the UH universe, Mrs. Romero of the NH2 universe died. The Core of NH2 was used by Romero to try to merge the hospitals of both universes. Alpha Squad of the UH universe is sent in, and is transported to the NH2 universe (their NH2 counterparts were never called, because the City in NH2 does not exist, and so no one would know). Since NH2's Emily is dead and UH's Emily is alive, the Core got confused and made her something in between. It would be safe to say that UH's Romero is one of the walking corpses in the NH1 section. In order to secure her release from the NH2 universe and get revenge for her husband, Emily plots to kill off her husband's counterpart. Of course, Romero augments the Core to prevent her from getting to him. The merging of the two universes are the cause of the hallucinations. For example, in the NH2 area with the reducing hallway, the hallucination is switching to Underhell's counterpart of the room, which does not exist. The hallucinations could accidentally include objects from other timelines, as well.

 

The events of Underhell causes the hospital staff to be zombified. Due to its lack of strategic value, no one decides to clear out the zombies within. As such, the hospital staff of NH2 is merged with their zombified counterparts. The shadows that appear are people who did not exist in NH2, but were brought in anyway, causing their dark state due to there being no body to merge with. Romero, knowing that the zombies don't like light, ensured that there was minimal light throughout the complex, if the light wasn't already destroyed by zombies before the merge. The mannequin sequence and blood-down-the-walls sequences are presumably other timelines leaking in. The strange zombies are probably zombified intruders from another, third timeline. This can also explain why the fourth Alpha Squad member can disappear in an instant, because he was momentarily shifted into an alternate NH2 hospital (presumably UH's counterpart).

 

Alpha Squad, due to entering the area being merged, is sent into the future by a month by the Core. Their memory of a different HQ is the reason they cannot contact their superiors.

 

Destroying the Core cancelled the merging attempt. Since the hospital will never appear again (I believe), it is assumed that the merging attempt caused the UH hospital to cease to exist in the UH universe, and is now trapped in the NH2 universe. The good thing is that the Core's destruction shifted Emily back to UH's universe and the dimensional merging barrier is gone. Since everyone except one lone NH2 universe native is dead for both hospitals, there wasn't any collateral damage from the act of destroying the Core.

 

And that is my reasoning for why there will be no more NH2 references in UH: Everyone is either dead or shifted to the other universe.

You should be writing a Sci-Fi book, because that was intense, what you just speculated. intense.gif?w=500&h=228

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Some additional evidence that that the NH2 Romero essentially made a pocket universe bringing in things from other universes:

 

After another playthrough of NH2, I have studied the pocket universe's skybox and I have found that there is nothing except mountains in all directions. The City in the UH universe is just outside the NH2 hospital, according to the lore. There is clearly no city out there, but there is a single road that can be used. A hospital literally in the middle of nowhere serves no practical purpose, so it must have been stolen from its original universe.

 

A revision of the NH2 Alpha Squad's fate: I have noticed that the alternate Alpha Squad makes a short cameo before the final chapter. When moving through the vents when Alpha 1 tells you to open a door (this is during the forklift puzzle in the warehouse) you can see the alternate Alpha Squad dead on the floor, with only skeletons remaining. They were presumably killed by the same monster that killed UH Alpha 2.

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